15 Fun Facts About the 2008 Election
Published by Fred Soto• December 14th, 2007
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If you would have asked pundits and analysts to predict the future just a year ago, chances are none of them would have predicted how our 2007 primary season would shape the quickly approaching 2008 Elections.
What have we learned throughout the primary season in 2007?
- The GOP is desperately struggling after losing rubber-stamping privileges in 2006.
- Republicans are hurting because of super patriotism, homosexuality, and prostitutes.
- The primary season started early due to angry anti-War and anti-Bush sentiment.
- The Ron Paul “revolution” is a highly effective movement for change.
- Ron Paul is only SIX percentage points from 2nd place Mitt Romney in SC .
- Barack Obama, a black man, has taken the lead among all candidates.
- Oprah Winfrey, a black woman, helped Barack Obama, a black man, take the lead.
- Political Genius Bill Clinton’s staff members are in Barack Obama’s court.
- John Edwards, a WHITE MAN, is playing the underdog card — successfully.
- 9/11 became Rudy Giuliani’s weakness instead of his strength.
- Hillary Clinton is too conservative (and pro-Bush) for most Democrats.
- Hillary Clinton IS losing, she’s not going down gracefully and can’t catch a break:
- A real “compassionate” Conservative, Huckabee leads the uninspired GOP crop.
- GOP Senators — who were traditionally anti-gay and pro-family — discovered the art of tapping toes and pimping hoes.
- Anti-Bush Patriotism has taken off, President Bush is enjoying the worst reputation of any sitting American president in our history!
Ok, maybe that last one could’ve been predicted,… so sue me?!
tags:2008 elections, DNC, Elections, Opinion, Politics, primary, RNC, Top 10
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what a joke, most of them are obvious, the ones that aren’t obvious are patently ridiculous…
1. GOP is obviously struggling, and its not because of the fact that they don’t have control. The better story is the democrats complete lack of organization.
2. GOP isn’t hurting because of national security issues… they never do, ask any political scientist, they may be wrong, but the public eats it all up.
3. Primary Season begins early because politicians are blood thirsty parasites who should be purged from society.
4. Ron Paul is accomplishing very little the biggest impact he is having is on the kids dropping out of college to join a campaign that won’t win… ever.
5. CNN and there highly accurate highly effective polls… yea definitely important.
6.The Barack Obama thing shouldn’t be publicized soo much it will lead to his down fall play it cool. This is what we want so just keep him there by making it seem like this is what we all expected.
7. The Oprah connection doesn’t help him either, people don’t like to feel like the rich are influencing the world too much…
8.So you watched the debates?
9. dude hes a democrat.. it doesn’t matter..
10. The weakness of Giuliani is that its primary time and hes a republican and he has to explain being pro-choice and having more wives than fingers on one hand.
11. Hillary Clinton isn’t conservative, she’s just doing what everyone does in the general election. She was just overlooking the primary and giving sound bites for the general.
12. Fair.. but obvious
13. Huckabee isn’t going to be leading for long, one week of vetting and hes been bent over and left to pay the check for dinner.
14. Not really a good point but.. i will give it to u…
15. Yea, Anti-Bush.. so u have one of them new TV’s huh? multi channel, too? Of course it is what everyone is doing, ever since the history of Presidential approval rating people have set their agendas by it.
shallow… pedantic.. not worth reading…
Thanks for the critical review, interesting to read your thoughts.
shallow… pedantic.. not worth reading…
Yours or Mine?
kidding…
The best part about the 2008 election thus far was the assertion that Bill Clinton has been with more black women than Obama. Play on playah!
Way to be a biased moron.
Ron Paul will win NH.
And He has my vote in MI.
not to mention Mike Gravel being censorored for exposing the truth.
Truth isn’t popular when it means destroying everything that some Americans hold dear. We’re living in a highly polarized America, get used to the corruption or learn to fight back.
Ugh, Ron Paul.
Please, read and be enlightened.
http://wwjv4.com/republicans/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-ron-paul-159
Hey Brian,
You’re an idiot. Your version of 1-15 shows that your understanding of American politics (and election campaigns) isn’t very far off from Bush’s. I won’t take the time to discredit them, not out of laziness or inability, rather, because I refuse to dignify what you wrote. I just needed to make sure that people wouldn’t, for some inane reason, listen to you.
Have a pleasant holiday season and enjoy basking in the knowledge that it is people like you that were the cause of the 7 years that precipitated the downfall of American hegemony.
I am glad I’m not alone in thinking that Brian’s anti-bias radar was off. Before I’m called on it, that’s not to say I am unbiased, I do have very strong views.
Regardless, happy holidays to all, I’ll be nicer next time, I promise.
Biased. Why isn’t Gravel there?
Denis: Give me a Gravel Fact and I’d gladly create a supplemental list..
Heck, if anyone believes they have a story related to the 2008 Elections that is interesting and would have been impossible to predict, post it here and I’ll add the list to this article.
Please make sure the source is reputable and authoritative and the link permanent.
“Ugh, Ron Paul.
Please, read and be enlightened.
http://wwjv4.com/republicans/10-reasons-not-to-vote-for-ron-paul-159”
Read the user comments to those 10 reasons, and be enlightened.
Points 6 and 7 say Obama has the LEAD?
Click on them; search the article the word “lead” DOES NOT SHOW UP…
You can’t bullshit on the internet man.
Have you noticed people know how to read too? THOSE ARE NOT FACTS…
Here’s a fact for you with numbers and from a reliable source..
http://www.gallup.com/poll/103042/Clinton-Still-Has-Big-Lead-Despite-Drop-Support.aspx
12. Hillary IS NOT loosing. LIAR.. Click on the link
I realize I should not expect people to read between the lines, click on links or even appreciate a more subtle message regarding the actions of certain politicians… but at least try to understand what the piece is trying to do.
Facts are relative in politics, this is an opinion piece and intended as a provocative piece. I can pull up polls that will easily show Clinton has lost her lead to Barack Obama, what does it mean? Nothing.
Nov20 from the station that painted Hillary as inevitable, thanks to Karl Rove:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312245,00.html
Here’s IOWA:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_democratic_caucus-208.html
Many analysts believe that if Hillary Clinton blows Iowa and New Hampshire, she’s done. I don’t know if I agree entirely, but I can tell you that Hillary Clinton is in trouble for pussy footing around the war issue the way the GOP “leadership” is pussy footing around torture.
You don’t have to like the facts, but at least talk about the issues intelligently without resorting to calling someone a “LIAR”. Tell me what you disagree with and I’ll talk it through with you if it bothers you that much. Thanks for the poll by the way, p.s. I’m a Democrat so some of you need to chill with the anti-Ron Paul spammer / hate mail. I’m not associated with the campaign, they pay me nothing, I don’t even know who or what is running this so-called BOTNET that I’ve been accused of helping to operate.
Seriously, some of you need to get a grip.
What a pathetic post. I clicked on this link thinking that there would be some kind of political insight.
Republicans are hurting because of super patriotism, homosexuality, and prostitutes?
If you think that these are the major issues in politics you haven’t been around long (or you’ve been miguided). On absolutely no poll can you find any of these three topics in the top 10 of issues on the minds of presidential voters.
The primary season started early due to angry anti-War and anti-Bush sentiment?
The primary season has been getting earlier and earlier for over two decades. The idea that this year is different due to Bush as opposed to following this trend is absurd.
The Ron Paul “revolution” is a highly effective movement for change?
How has it been highly effective? Because Paul has managed to get a bunch of internet nuts to spam every possible poll, website, and forum out there? Tell me, what has Ron Paul changed this election season? I’m also not sure why it matters that Ron Paul is 6 points behind Romney, he’s still 6th and hasn’t once, in any poll, been above any of the front 5.
Obama only has a hand full of past Clinton advisors on his side. Hillary has more past staffers than Obama - which makes sense. But neither of them have the real genius behind President Clinton’s campaigns, Dick Morris.
9/11 became Rudy Giuliani’s weakness instead of his strength?
I’m not a Giuliani supporter, but this statement is clearly wrong. He’s still the national front runner of the GOP and his supporters support him because of his leadership on 9-11. His supporters believe him to be tough on terrorism and crime.
A real “compassionate” Conservative, Huckabee leads the uninspired GOP crop?
He leads in 4 states. How is that being the leader? Granted, he’s taken a big jump, but he will fall again now that he’s been targeted. Nevertheless, he’s not leading.
Further, this GOP crop is hardly uninspired. What the GOP has that the Democrats do not have is a large range of political insight and thought. The Democrats all have the same talking points, anti-Bush, anti-war, raise taxes, gov. health care, etc. The GOP is different, McCain supports an amnesty type bill, three different candidates (Huckabee, Paul, and Thompson) are in favor of the fair tax, Paul has taken the anti-war stance, they disagree on torture, entitlements, taxes, etc. Hardly uninspired.
Anti-Bush Patriotism has taken off, President Bush is enjoying the worst reputation of any sitting American president in our history?
This is actually false - but the Democratic congress is enjoying the lowest approval rating of all time. That’s what happens when you elect congressmen based on one issue.
Oh Neal, when I was asking for people to challenge me with intelligent dialog, I didn’t mean it!
You dropped a load there, so let me give it a shot.
First, this is not a “top 15 countdown” or anything of that sort. It’s a non-exhaustive list of fifteen subjects off the top of my head that were NOT issues that have affected the way the race is turning out.
the issue about Super Patriotism, Homosexuality, and prostitutes
This goes to the problem of Hypocrisy. Politicians are often the quickest to engage in hypocritical actions. Only a decade ago, President Clinton led our troops into Kosovo for what he perceived was a peace leading mission based on the intel he was fed. I’ll give you a quote that came out of the GOP’s Tom Delay:
“You can support our troops, but not our President” — Tom Delay re: Bill Clinton / Kosovo
As it turns out, super patriotism is the most despicable form of hypocrisy. It put us on a road to fascism, it exploits the hell out of our ACTUAL TROOPS, and you drop the G-Bomb and suddenly you have a propaganda machine that is only matched by “Ron Paul spammers”.
The GOP has traditionally won elections on the issues of Homosexuality and Prostitution, but not for engaging in it. Using and abusing biblical rhetoric, supporting policy to deny homosexual rights and being “tough on crime” (that they help encourage) was the path to success for the GOP. When you engage in this form of hypocrisy, it’s ugly too because suddenly, no one in America knows WHAT it means to be conservative.
On the idea of Family Values, another issue that the GOP liked to run on was keeping America ‘moral’ and wanting to keep the American family in tact. GOP nuts went after Bill Clinton for acting in a threatening way towards the family core unit (Monica-Gate). What kind of an example is it when a large number of Republicans are soliciting escorts and engaged in prostitution? Never mind their playing with boys in the public restrooms, you know kids go in those rest rooms too?
What you have today is not “the party of Ronald Reagan” no matter what Rudy Giuliani tells you. The one man, Ron Paul, who actually shares his libertarian roots with Ronald Reagan… is spurned for being anti-War.
If not for Bush hate, what other reason can you give for an early primary debate season that was pushed by the media?
My guess is you’ll call it a “liberal media” issue, but I’d say it has more to do with American anti-War sentiment and discontent among our citizens. You mentioned Rudy Giuliani and how I inaccurately say his weakness is 9/11 rather than his strength. If it is indeed his strength, I’d guarantee you he would be leading the pack among the GOP.
Among a few problems you may have missed: NY Fire Department Union put out an anti-Giuliani video for terrible leadership. He’s been caught lying about his role in the days after 9/11 and had to apologize for making comparisons to the people who actually were in the rubble trying to save lives. Few people want another President Bush, in fact only 25% of Americans would be happy with that kind of outcome and frankly they’d vote for someone far worse than Bush if he’d promote the neo-conservative agenda.
The article on Giuliani that I linked and you most likely did not click had to do with the recent scandal that shows Rudy’s problem with leadership and selecting ‘quality’ individuals to help him govern.
I’ll continue this… next post.
The Ron Paul Revolution, how has it been effective?
I pay attention to the news on all networks, so I’m familiar with what’s going on globally. My guess is you stick to Fox News and since they tell you what you want to hear, you rarely hear about what’s happening with Ron Paul. Let me help you out here:
1) A year ago, this “Ron Paul guy” was laughed at by neo-CONS for having the nerve to be anti-War and call himself conservative. Political analysts and bloggers wrote him off as a whackjob with no staying power, he should never have picked up more than a fraction of a percentage point if you listen to the conservative analysts.
2) He raised 4.3 million dollars in November, his campaign raised well over 12 million in the fourth quarter after a major fund raiser last night. He continues to surprise those people who have denied his viability as a candidate and his “Internet spammers”, on average, all have IQs well above the average political activist and could run circles around the Fox News propaganda you regurgitated above.
3) “The troops” ™ support Ron Paul, he received the most donations, on the Republican side, of ANY Republican candidate. If not for Barack Obama, he’d easily obliterate the opposition in terms of “troop support” — here’s a gem for you: both candidates are ANTI-WAR. Using the logic that you most likely subscribe to, it turns out the troops hate the troops, who woulda thunk it.
4) I didn’t mention invasions of privacy and the patriot act on my list, but Ron Paul is squarely on the side of LIBERTY whereas your goons listed above are not.
There is so much more, but you don’t want to hear it. The important thing here is I’ve just shown to you that Ron Paul has had a profound impact in the development of this race. Whether he wins or not, the conversation has most definitely been steered away from the war-mongering and God and troop exploiting propaganda and towards developing solutions to American problems.
Mike Huckabee is a good guy, I’ll give you that, but it doesn’t sound like you want him to win.
He’s leading the crop in four states, fine.. but where was he 2 months ago? He was somewhere between Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani, as Rudy and Mitt were in the lead by far. If any candidate has momentum, it’s Mike Huckabee, and part of how he’s doing it is simple: HE IS NOT AN ASSHOLE.
Even people that don’t like his politics have a hard time painting him as an evil Republican, because he *gasp* actually cares about helping people. Yes, even the poor. Granted his methods are not ideal for Democrats because of the threat to certain constitutional liberties that they deem the foundation of liberalism, but Mike is a decent guy and I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss his candidacy.
If you can show me a candidate that had a worse reputation with the American people, historically, and the citizens of the world, I’d be surprised. I can tell you that I’ve never seen nor read about the kind of venom we’ve been accustomed to hearing re: President Bush. Have you? It’s bad, and it is only going to get worse.
Here’s a “fun” list for you, enjoy:
September 11th –> Iraq War [oops, Al Qaida attacked]
Katrina –> FEMA Response [oops, Bush friends]
Halliburton –> Cheney [yet another cronyism issue]
Atty. firing Scandal –> Alberto Gonzales [breaker of laws]
R. Pickens –> See recent John Kerry challenge.
Mortages and Banking –> thanks Bush.
US Dollar matching and dropping below Canadian Dollar
Do you really want me to continue? President Bush was a buffoon of a President and I’d be shocked if you can find me a worst sitting president. You bring up Congress’ low rating, well you only have to look at their inability to pass legislation. If you know anything about government, you know that 60 votes are required to do ANYTHING in Congress. Democrats have 49, maybe 50 ‘partisan’ e.g. free votes on certain issues. With a polarized America, there is no way in hell that they can overcome the obstacle of filibuster and indefinite veto threats by the President.
Are Americans pissed off at how poorly Congress is performing? Yes. Are they completely oblivious to the REASONS why Congress can’t get their legislation in place. No, they aren’t as stupid as you’d like us to believe.
Have a happy holiday. Please, if you get a chance, drop by next Christmas so you can see how right I am about these issues. Only time will reveal the truth, and my guess is you are in for a serious reality check.
p.s. I’d appreciate if the military disinformation campaign stick to other sites, the last thing I want to do is expose a concerted effort by our own military to ‘change’ the direction of online discourse. It’s cheap, unbelievably pathetic, and I will go public with it.
GH - in the current polls, Ron Paul is pulling 8 percent of the vote in New Hampshire. He will get 10 percent at the most and finish fourth or fifth. Maybe that is a victory to you.
15 Fun BIASED Opinions About the 2008 Election
If you want to get technical, what is fact in the face of American politics anyway? All facts in politics are relative, all “truths” in the 21st century are almost entirely based on each bias. Say what you want, but in the end, just about everything you hear on Fox News, CNN, NY Times or read in The American Spectator, National Review Online, Reddit, Digg, whatever your poison is of choice… it’s all opinion and it’s all driven by bias. Instead of calling it biased or untruthful, maybe you should use your noggin a little bit and make some arguments that would help shift the bias to your position.
YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING!!!!!!
BETWEEN THE LINES?
I cannot find the word “IOWA” and/or anything related to the “IOWA theory” that you actually had to explain on a comment; by doing so, you accept the HUGE OMISSION on the FACTS ARTICLE. Maybe the word “LIAR” helped to instigate you to explain yourself on such a AMAZING OMISSION.
Still OBAMA is NOT leading NATION WIDE which is what the articles misleads to.
Advance search on google the phrase “Facts are relative in politics” (included in your explanation/comment)or maybe a variation like “relative facts in politics” I EVEN tried “relative and facts” plus “politics” as must, and all combinations I could think of, and…… NOTHING. Where did you get this idea? I am extremely curious.
If you look up in a dictionary the word FACT, its definition includes the word “truth” every time. Your FACTS NOT being truth, are exactly a LIE. So what are you? YEP you guessed right.
Next time just click on links or read the articles so I don’t have to explain it in such depth. Or here’s a tip: GOOGLE IT.
“Fun Facts” on a political blog, in a satirical and hostile article no less, should imply bias. I won’t take the time to be as courteous with my slower readers from now on, it’s obvious you are worked up because I didn’t give you what you wanted to read.
Take a breather, have a smoke, go outside.. do anything that might help you relieve the stress.
I am stressed? is that your come back?
HAHAHA….
Obviously you haven’t a subsatance answer… DUDE just say I had a big omission in my article, c’mon.
You’re right most media is opinion and biased. That’s actually a PROBLEM and very bad thing for this media controlled democracy.
Here’s the kicker, the web is different IT’S INTERACTIVE, and you’re living it yourself with MY COMMENTS.
Truth seeking is possible and the web gives us that opportunity. But I see you’re NOT part of the new generation, that understands this.
You’re actually fine with media as it is. WOW
See I am the kind that likes TRUE FACTS so I can make better desicions.
I can’t really make sense out of a person that is fine with bogus facts from the media, you’re right our conversation is over.
Keep watching FOX.
You got me, it’s all an evil plan to throw Hillary Clinton under the bus and hold hands with Fox News and sing songs about radical liberal hippies!
Muahahahahaha.
Have a wonderful day.
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